How much time is needed to make valid XHTML+CSS from PSD

[kabirchy]

Hello,
everyday in Scriptlance many projects posted and some of those relates to title of this thread. We see many low bids on such projects. I also bid low when I have no work in hand. But does it really take 1/2 hours to slice and make valid XHTML & CSS from PSD.

It takes much more time for me. So, little confused. like to know is there any tool or such to speed up the process.


Regards

[nick2009]

It definitely takes longer, can take a couple of days, depends how complex it is and how many pages,

What I hate is when a buyer posts a PSD/XHTML project, and then never bothers to post the PSD, how do you know what you're bidding on!

Most of the people bidding cheaply are probably just going to use a generator to generate table based rubbish. I always handcode valid xhtml/css, coded in an IDE, not with Dreamweaver.

I always cross browser test my work in all browsers, I guess for me fixing bugs can take a while, usually, and I guess it's the same for most developers is problems with IE6!

[Rafael]

Takes a lot of time when you're developing high customized pages, most when (by example) when you're slicing from PSD and then to PHP, this don't takes a half hour, takes a lot more time.

Most of programmers who bid for $10 are just looking for rank, others looking for scam, and others only persons who are looking for quick money doesn't matter the enforce for do it.

- Rafael

[OxyK]

that's minimum 4-5 hours even with simple page. slicing, writing it by hand, check against browsers. can take about 20 hours if more pages, ajaxing, complex backgrounds or other crap. Its not cheap. Even if you will sell it for $10/hr the quote can't be less than $40 for very simple page. If you slice for cms that's gonna be even more because of integration you will need to do.
so if you will have $40 for html, the same wordpressed will be $70-80, joomled or CRE'ed, oh well... $90-120

these sl budgets and bids making slicing is not an option to work on. i work on hourly basis now only for slicing. the only fair option for both, client and programmer.

[Rafael]

And Magento'ed will cost several hundreds to thousands depending of the real complex of the project... The thing is that here we can't do much, this is a marketplace so we have to sell our services better and if a buyer goes with a $10 bid, well don't worry, if he select that you will not need that job.

If is a single page with xHTML/CSS content the time needed will be around 5 hours, and if you add the Jquery, blabla, will increase so, I think that we are in the right track with our work time regarding this

[nomve]

By default I usually say 7 hours for a single page. It's usually less, but it can be more. I'm with the previous poster, it doesn't matter if somebody bids $10 for something you'd say at least 70. It's their problem if they don't want to respect their work.

It's also maybe something that shouldn't be respected. Most of my early jobs were fixes for screw ups by other people that really did not have enough knowledge to complete the project. And as far as HTML/CSS goes, I have a few clients I work regularly with and they pay fair for fair work. If there's something wrong even after they pay, I fix it. It's what you get when you pay fair.

My point is, it doesn't matter what other people bid -- there are people who realize you can't get a perfect page for $10. People told me over PMB 'my budget is $xx when I bid $yy', and I say thanks a lot, but no. My price is my price even though maybe I would get a job if I lower it.

But you can look that part this way too: I did some Wordpress work for X amount of money and it took me about a week to finish. While I was working, a colleague scored a job for twice as much. Maybe I'd get the job for twice as much if I didn't get the first one, eh?

To me, it comes down to: if you know what you're doing, it will work out, no matter what is your price.